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I cannot wait to get my hands on a Fortis! Have you guys considering using Novak (or another more common) sight cuts to keep our options open? It would be nice
Great news. I like the way you keep us updated. Up front and a positive influence. I am still looking forward to the final developement design and product.
I will be right there waiting when you release the weapon for sale. I am not much on new tech, but I have to tell you, I beleive this would not have come about without it.
Live large and dream larger.
I’m really excited about this! I hope you are taking what Paul Liebenberg calls Geometric Lock Time into consideration, I’ll buy at least two, one in .45ACP as of course 10MM. A .22 Conversion Kit would also be nice.
As a 10mm Fanatic (I own 6 handguns and a carbine chambered in that cartridge) I am seriously excited about the Fortis. I think Jeff Cooper would approve! The Bren Ten had enormous potential and I never could figure out why no one picked up the ball and ran with it. Finally!!!
This is fantastic. Thanks for keeping us up to date. As you can see, the guns will sell!!!! Any plans for side items, as was with the Bren, pins, posters, cases, etc?
I ordered a Bren Ten in 85..I was 15 and I could not wait to get it. The factory called my dealer and told me they were ready to ship it….but without a magazine. I declined the pistol and probable within a year D&D went under. I have owned many pistols since then but I always wanted a Bren Ten. Maybe now I will get a chance with a Fortis (why not just call it a Bren Ten). I will have to reload me some of the original Norma stuff. 200gr bullet at 1275 fps…,am I right. It has been awhile as we all know. Well good luck.
I too am excited and grateful that a company would take on this project. I will have no problem supporting the effort by buying 2 or 3 pistols. I am very curious if additional improvements, such as a frame mounted decocker, might be possible?
Oh yeah, I’m in for at least two…
“In addition to compact, tactical and lightweight designs, we will offer an exact reproduction of the original Bren-Ten as a legacy collector.”
I’m sure that many owners of the vintage D&D pistols are hoping that you will produce parts that are interchangeable with the Fortis. Is this still a GO… ?
Best Wishes,
John
will there be an ambidextrious option?
have you decided if the barrels will have traditional rifling of if they will be polygonal?
Are you able to leave off the loaded chamber?
Will the firing pin block be redesigned? It seems a little intrusive on the original Bren
I have a Bren Ten and I love to shoot the pistol but I have been cautious since if it pistol would break their are no replacement parts. I can’t wait for them to ship. I will buy 2 1 in 10mm and 1 in 45
Glad to hear you are taking the correct steps to finally make some of our dreams come true. My original 2 tone Bren has become a safe Queen, along with 8 mags. That weapon saved many lives, when called on. It took me about 3 years of trading items to get those mags, but it was worth it. I’ve retired it in memory of friends that didn’t come back from Central America. Many where given a presentation models, yes and without mags. Again, please keep us informed on the progress and testing stage of a great weapon system.
I’ll take one in a commander size package and one legacy model for the collection!
Wonderful that this is finally coming about! I too would like to see a decocker… something along the lines of the CZ 75 BD.
Nice to see your project moving forward.There is more interest in it than you know.Many followers of the Bren series pistol would relish a usable model for CC carry and everyday usage.I think an article in the American Rifleman would be a great way to announce to the shooting public when ready.Waiting to place my order as are many.Thanks for moving ahead with this.
guys please make this close to bren looking as possible, and make it affordable.
I am very excited about this pistol. I just hope that when it comes out it is 100% reliable from the factory.I also hope that they reconsider trying to get it to hold 15 rounds like the Witness pistols (I happen to love the feel of that grip). I am a huge 10mm fan and have been since the start, count me in for two.
Outstanding work gentlemen. Who will be distibuting these when they become available? Just so I know who to make the check out to….
Please have the Fortis certified for sale in California! If you certify it we will buy it!!
As a Bren Ten owner, I am looking forward to the purchase of a couple of these myself. I can’t wait and second what David N. said above: get it certified for California!
I have owned a witness limited in 10 mm for over three years and have shot it into oblivion–can’t get enough of the 10 mm. Make it sturdy, use a coned barrel w/o the std guide rod-seems to make recoil easier. Please leave off the firing pin block, it is just one more thing that goes tits up when doing a thorough strip & cleaning. Use different colored tritium sights and definitely a light rail!!! The legacy of the 1911 is in it’s simplicity—KISS; Keep It Simple Stupid and we will all become proud owners of a unique pistol ready to take it’s place gun history! I’ll order two se vous plez.
Indeed, looking forward to what sounds could be a great end of year present. Second the .22 conversion kit…that would be a great way to introduce the pistol ie have them both at a ‘intro’ price.
Oh my god. 1984 and Miami Vice, growning up in the 1980s, it was both Jeff Cooper and Sonny Crockett that caused me to love the Bren Ten.
I am already saving up money, I must have one of these. I carry a EAA Witness in 10mm and cannot wait to hold one in my hand.
Bless you
dreadful says : I absolutely agree with this !
I’m really looking forward to FORTIS. I would like to see extended cpacity magazines available for the FORTIS.
keep the unique muzzle the Bren Ten and increase the capactiy of the magazine like paraordanace did with a 14+1 round .45 it should sale like hot cakes.
make it Kali-legal, build to accept 10+ rd mags, priced competitively (a high dollar handgun chambered in 10mm won’t sell as well and will never be able to take off as opposed to a gun that’s balanced in all deptpartments-price/quality/performance) add features that will assist in flawless operations in the worst environments i.e. glocks/XD’s…that being said I’ll be looking forward to one myself
As we all eagerly await the introduction of the 21st Century generation Bren Ten, you can learn the “true inside” story about the original pistol in the new book BREN TEN:The Heir Apparent (Bren-Ten.com). May its great legacy continue on with the Fortis!
Please – no rails! A legendary handgun doesn’t need gizmos and other junk to disrupt its lines + make it unbalanced…
Waiting anxiously. Thanks for the updates. Hopefully you will have prototype pictures soon.
Please keep it close to original (no rails, no decocker, etc).
THE CHECK IS IN THE MAIL.
I’LL TAKE IT
I’ve wanted one since I first set eyes on it. I’m a big fan of the 10mm and to have an exact copy plus improvements of the original is a dream come true. I agree please keep it as original looking as possible. It doesn’t need to look like something out of a swat movie. They’re coming back; mustang, camaro and Bren Ten.
I’d sure would like to test the Fortis Bren Ten out and put it through it’s paces, testing…firing, accuracy, reliability. Also to rate the pistol as to quality, machine work fit, manuals and printed materials, form feel to the shooter, sights and target aquisition. I’d provide a report of the results unbias to Fortis, ammunition companies, or any magazine publisher trying to produce a story.
Mean while I’ll be looking for this kind of report myself to evaluate the what makes the Fortis Bren Ten just what it is expected to be. Will it be a functional work of machine art to play with or a serious machine that you can trust with your life, if it came down to decision to protect youself or loved ones with the use of deadly force.
One thing I would like to see is a 40S&W conversion barrel and possibily others like the 357 SIG or even the 9X25 Dillon chamberings avalible for the 10mm pistol giving the flexibility of other calibers from the same platform.
Best of luck developing the project to it’s fullest extent!
Wade
send me one now!!!! I was going to buy awitness but will wait for the real thing now. thankyou for making them again
I always wanted a BrenTen. Now I have a Para-Ordinance 45 and thinking of getting an ACE 45 super workover. I just discovered the new Fortis pistol and I’m sure I will be interested in how well your product is made. Please notify me when these are ready for delivery.
All I can say is…. It’s about time!!!
10mm and 40 S&W on one platform? Two guns for the price of one! Trust me, they will sell like hotcakes and I’ll be your first customer. Also, any chance of a companion carbine? P.S. Hexagonal rifling(yes) or standard cut rifling (no)?
I WILL BE BUYING TWO, one .45 and one 10mm, that said I would like to see a 10mm target version with a standard barrel and a three port fitted target barrel all in one package also down the line after production and sales take off, begin thinking compact! Thanks for bringing back a weapon worth fighting for and with. V.R.
I own a Bren and am very happy to hear that the Fortis may bring back the classic design. I agree that it should be close to the original (no rails). I suggest keeping the magazine capacity at 10+1 for sale in those states that still limit capacity and so retooling isn’t required if another ban in enacted. You could always design extended high capacity magazines for those who feel they need more rounds. I look forward to it being produced.
Hey 4th of July would be a good day for an update. I feel like I am standing
outside the bathroom and waiting my turn but a little news would go a long
way in making this dance I’m doing a little more enjoyable.
I just can’t wait I just can’t wait
Thanks John
Hello from France !
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I hope you will export it to old europa !!!!!
it will make a nice friend for my hardballer !!!!!!!
cannot wait too !
thanks
It’s about time somebody decided to follow through on this project! Any chance of making a “viced” version? I’m too cautious to have my bren altered.
I am in the enviable position of coming into a small (~$12K) inheritance within six months so I DEFINITELY will be in line for at least one. It will become my full-time CCW piece.
Please no large roll marks. I have a Special Forces model Bren Ten and love it, except for the large lettering on the slide. Thanks for making the latest and greatest version of this classic pistol design!
The .45ACP has a 10 round magazine and the 10mm is a 15 round magazine. This will make the Fortis pistol much more marketable than past 10mm pistols. The old argument against the 10mm, if it equals the .45 in balistics, but doesn’t offer much of an increase in magazine capacity, why not just buy a .45? With a five round advantage over the .45, people will be more inclined to consider a 10mm. The problem with past guns, most of them were built off of .45 platforms, with single stack magazines. Since 10mm is the same diamater as .40 S&W there is no reason there couldn’t have been a 15 shot 10mm. Other than the Glock 20, I’m not aware of one.
Trying to make this pistol at all is a gutsy move. You’re going out on a limb that other people have fallen off of to try to make some money, and give people what they want. I wish you lots of luck.
Can’t wait to see these come to market. I remember the hope that was lost when the Peregrine Falcon never materialized. This is very exciting. I’d also like to see a ‘Viced’ version available.
Like so many other Bren Ten fans, my first introduction to this pistol was through the TV show Miami Vice in 1984. I sent $10 CASH to Dornaus & Dixon for 2 color catologs. I recieved 1 lousy B&W photocopied brochure 2 months later. I was young, not quite 22, and had a spouse, children, car payment, and bills, bills, bills. In early spring of 1986 I finally could afford to purchase a Bren Ten “Special Forces” model – light (slide was silver colored like frame) and 3 extra magazines. I went to a reputable firearms shop that specialized in ordering custom built & unique firearms. When I told the shop owner what I wanted he looked at me & said “Forget it guy…I already have enough angry irate customers whose Bren Ten orders never came in. The ones that did arrive, were without magazines. I took the money & purchased a Beretta pistol & spare mags.
In early 1991, we moved to a suburb of San Antonio, TX. After living there 2 weeks, I recieved a non-requested catalog from a company called Peregrine Industries, Huntington Beach, CA. This company, at the time, was going to manufacture improved version of the Bren Ten pistols called the Falcon model & the fancier Phoenix model. In April 1991 I attended the NRA Convention being held in San Antonio. While there I had the opprtunity to not only see & handle the Peregrine Falcon & Phoenix, but meet Richard Voit: Founder & President of Peregrine Industies. Mr. Voit was an extremely courteous man and answered all of my questions. The most important one of all…when will the pistols be available with spare magazines for purchase. Mr. Voit stated sometime in the next 6 months, perhaps sooner, and there would also be a .40S&W. Well, the moves & years went by and by, yet nothing about the Peregrine pistols.
After returning from living in Okinawa, to the U.S. In December 1996 I found that old Peregrine catalog (it had been in storage while overseas). Since none of the local firearms shops knew nothing of this pistol I called the number on the catalog. A security guard answered the phone. When I inquired as to the status of the company…he stated the plant had been non-operational for years. The security guard stated the company was in recievership*, and they were hired to watch over thousands of completed pistols, and pistol parts that were never assembled. That was December 1996. (*Peregrine Industries had fallen victim of the early 1990’s Saving & Loan Scandals.)
Our son is in the military. He emailed info about his MK 18 – it has a Vltor stock. So in checking Vltor webpage out, I stumbled upon the excellent news that Vltor was going to be offering a version of the Bren Ten – Peregrine Industries pistol. I have been waiting nearly 25 year for this pistol. In the back of my mind I always hoped that one day some company would make the Bren Ten / Peregrine Falcon-Phoenix pistols. I hope & pray tha Vltor will follow through and build this outstanding pistol & actually offer them for consumer purchase. I also hope that Vltor will seriously consider making the shorter barreled version Bren Ten called “Special Forces” model light (silver colored slide) and perhaps a .40 S&W caliber. I look forward to owning a Vltor Fortis pistol. Best of wishes to Vltor in making the Fortis project pistol a reality for us Bren Ten – Peregrine Ind. pistol enthusiats. Thank you allowing me to express all of the above.
Ignore any comments about decockers, rails etc. I shot an original and it a is a great design! I would not change a thing!
I own 3 bren Tens, and six magazines. I love them. I can only imagine that Vltor will improve any design issues. Mine all shoot great, and can’t wait for a Fortis. Thanks Eric!
Sirs,
This has been a handgun that I have been wanting ever since 1984. Several of my friends own Bren Ten pistols in various forms (SF, SM’s) some never being fired.
Count on at least two weapons to be purchased at the first opportunity.
Best wishes and held breath,
It’s been a long time since I’ve been excited about another handgun, but this is it!
I own a number of vltor products and have been completely satisfied with the products and service. It’s great to see a professional and competent company such as Vltor take on this project… it’ll get done right.
Don’t be fooled by the name at the post head. I am Shelley’s husband, Gunfan. Shelley bought me Dan Wesson’s “original” Razorback (#84 of the first 150.) This is my prized possession! I own 5 handguns chambered for the 10mm cartridge.
I have always wanted to own Bren Ten, but couldn’t afford it. The Perigrine Falcon raised my hope for a “ressurection” of the pistol. When production progressed no further than the prototype stage, my hopes were dashed again.
I hope that by December, 2008, we could hear some happy news.
Scott
I had one of the original Brens, serial # 83SM01573. I loved the firearm and felt that it had one of the best grips and triggers going. My only concern was the criticism the handgun had received at the time concerning the effects of recoil around the site of where the slide-stop passes through the frame. I did have the magazine release worked on by Mike Larocca in Worcester as the release did not positively engage each of the magazines the I had for it. I unfortunately sold mine in anticipation of the Peregrine Falcon. I would love to see this new version and other variations of this design. One thing I had hoped for in an eventual evolution of the design is a thumb safety that would act as a cocked and locked/decocker like the variation 1 format that is used on H&K USPs. I know this handgun may have limited availability in my state. I live in Massachusetts and know that consumer laws make it difficult to get handguns approved for sale here. Still, the market has long been absent of a quality 5 inch barrelled, metal framed, DA/SA handgun. I applaud your efforts.
Thank you very much for bringing back and re-defining the original 10mm. I always wanted in but my age at the time, and the problems i heard and read about, made me wary. I am in for a 10mm and will it a) be blued as well? b)as i have learned the hard way, will it have a light rail, c) i won’t have to take a loan out to afford it. Thanks Greg
Man, have I dreamed about this. I didn’t ever think it would Happen. I just hope I can afford one. I did so envy Sonny Crockett. I wanted one so bad but I was a newlywed that wasn’t ready to get divorced yet. I should have got one, I got a divorce anyway. Hurry up guys and don’t forget us poor people when you price it. Start out cheap and then raise the heck out of it. LOL. and thanks for the dream. I’ll be waiting for you, (it).
It’s been about a month since your last update and the shot show is upon us. Any new updates on price and availability. I hate to seem anxious but I am.